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Agenda - Lucan-Clondalkin ACM (1) 16th March, 2010

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Date:
16/03/2010 15:30
Location:
Clondalkin Office
Standing Orders:

Headed Items

H-I (1)
Submitted by:
Planning Not is use
Responsibility:
Planning Not is use

Confirmation and Re-affirmation of Minutes

Minutes of the Lucan/Clondalkin Area Committee Meeting 17th February, 2010

Planning

Questions

Qu (1)
Submitted by:
Councillor R. Dowds
Responsibility:
Paul Hogan

To ask the Manager to outline in brief the recent planning decision in relation to Liffey Valley Shopping Centre?

Qu (2)
Submitted by:
Councillor D. Keating
Responsibility:
Martin Judge

To ask the Manager to liaise with the Manager in the Community Department on planning and enforcement issues relating to the building of the Palmerstown Community Centre. Specifically will the Manager report in detail on what progress has been made in identifying planning and enforcement issues at this particular stage, as per my specific request and agreement given to my request, at the recent on-site meeting convened in this building, whereby any aspects of the development which are not considered completed to the satisfaction of the local authority will be noted and listed as part of the reply to this question? Would the Manager also report in detail as to how this Council proposes that any of such outstanding issues can be resolved?

Qu (3)
Submitted by:
Councillor D. Keating
Responsibility:
Martin Judge

To ask the Manager if he will give a comprehensive and detailed report on the recent planning history associated with Clonard, Esker Hill, Lucan, and if there remains any planning and enforcement issues relating to development at this site?

Qu (4)
Submitted by:
Councillor W. Lavelle
Responsibility:
Martin Judge

To ask the Manager to give an update on the planning enforcement proceedings relating to No. 8 Main Street, Lucan?

Qu (5)
Submitted by:
Councillor W. Lavelle
Responsibility:
Paul Hogan

To ask the Manager for a detailed update on the approved plans for green routes from Griffeen Avenue and Newcastle Road to the Grand Canal, including a signalised 'toucan' crossing on Griffeen Avenue at Griffeen Valley Park, Lucan; Can the Manager also advise on a likely timeframe for works to commence and to provide details on any further ecological assessments and mitigation measures proposed as part of this project?

Qu (6)
Submitted by:
Councillor W. Lavelle
Responsibility:
Tony Shanahan, William Purcell

To ask the Manager to update on the taking-in-charge of both Larkfield and Abbeywood Court in Lucan, noting that responses to my previous queries suggested that the taking-in-charge processes for both estates were at an advanced stage?

Qu (7)
Submitted by:
Councillor E. Tuffy
Responsibility:
Paul Hogan

Noting the Report on my Motion No.17 at the ACM of 17 February 2010 regarding the Planning Permission granted in response to Planning Applications SD09A/0161 and SD09A/0162 for proposed developments at Liffey Valley Town Centre, to ask the Manager if he can provide a summary account of the appeals made to An Bord Pleanála by the first party and third parties, and if he can also provide a summary report of the Observations made to An Bord by South Dublin County Council?

Qu (8)
Submitted by:
Councillor E. Tuffy
Responsibility:
Paul Hogan

To ask the Manager if he will advise if any specific request has been received by the Council from the Department of Education and Science and/or the Office of Public Works relating to the acquisition of a site on Council owned lands to provide for Esker Educate Together National School?

Qu (9)
Submitted by:
Councillor E. Tuffy
Responsibility:
Paul Hogan

To ask the Manager if any progress has been made with the developer to have the dual purpose hall (for use by Adamstown Community College and Adamstown residents) built and ready for use by September 2010?

Headed Items

H-I (2)
Submitted by:
Planning Not is use
Responsibility:
Planning Not is use

NEW WORKS

No Business

H-I (3)
Submitted by:
Planning Not is use
Responsibility:
Planning Not is use

Planning Files

A. Large applications under consideration

B. Files requested by members

Correspondence

Cor (1)
Submitted by:
Planning Not is use
Responsibility:
Planning Not is use

CORRESPONDENCE

No Business

Motions

Mot (1)
Submitted by:
Councillor R. Dowds
Responsibility:
Paul Hogan

Cathaoirleach's Business

That this Committee recommends that South Dublin County Council investigates the possibility of using some of the Clonburris SDZ lands for a temporary horse project.

Mot (2)
Submitted by:
Councillor W. Lavelle
Responsibility:
Martin Judge

That this Committee requests the Manager to present a detailed report, for discussion, on efforts  by the planning authority to monitor and ensure compliance with planning enforcement notices issued with respect to the unauthorised use of both No. 1 Liffey Road and No. 13 Liffey Gardens, Lucan for purposes associated with religious worship and instruction.

Mot (3)
Submitted by:
Councillor D. Keating
Responsibility:
Neil O'Byrne

That this Committee now requests South Dublin County Council to ask the Irish Government, through the Department of Environment, Heritage and Local Government, to begin the process of engaging with the owners of the lands at St. Edmundsbury and Woodville, Lucan, that would take these lands into state ownership so that the objective of this Council and that of the local community will be realised, and that these lands will become part of a Liffey Valley Park, and that as part of this new initiative this Council would make a presentation to the Minister for Arts, Sports and Tourism, demonstrating the potential tourism benefits as well as the historical, conservation and heritage significance of these lands.

Mot (4)
Submitted by:
Councillor R. Dowds
Responsibility:
Martin Judge, Paul Hogan

That this Committee recommends that South Dublin County Council operates a consistency in relation to back land development at the cottages on Knockmeenagh Road, Clondalkin and recognises that, given some backland planning permissions have been granted, the only consistency that is possible at present is, that all backland planning applications in this location are open for consideration.

Roads

Questions

Qu (10)
Submitted by:
Councillor D. Keating
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

To thank the Manager for agreeing to my longstanding requests to review the road widening works on the N4 and Outer Ring Road in Lucan, at the December '09 Lucan/Clondalkin Area Committee Meeting and at the January '10 Council meeting, and for agreeing to introduce noise monitors in estates on these 2 roads, and for further agreeing to discuss and agree the location for the placing of these noise monitors through a prior agreed process at a future Lucan/Clondalkin Area Committee of the Road's Department. Will the Manager agree to begin this process with a preliminary discussion at the March '10 Area Committee meeting of the Road's Department?

Qu (11)
Submitted by:
Councillor D. Keating
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

To ask the Manager to provide and up-to-date report on the work of the Road's Department over the last number of years, in an effort to reduce traffic congestion, including in the Lucan area, particularly at peak times. Specifically will the Manager report on the ongoing efforts to reduce peak-time traffic congestion, by introducing the Pilot Project for School Transportation, given work carried out by the previous Transport Strategic Policy Committee, noting the obvious advantages this pilot project will have for Lucan if supported of the Minister for Transport?

Qu (12)
Submitted by:
Councillor G. Kenny
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

To ask the Manager to consider putting a street/ road sign at the entrance to Liscarne Gardens, Clondalkin? The Liscarne Gardens street sign is not visible to drivers whom often take the wrong turn to Finches Shopping Centre.

Qu (13)
Submitted by:
Councillor W. Lavelle
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

To ask the Manager to install noise monitors at Moy Glas Road, Chase and Lawn and at Ballydowd Hill, Lucan so as to allow for a full and thorough assessment of residents' complaints over noise pollution due to the proximity of the Outer Ring Road and N4 respectively?

Qu (14)
Submitted by:
Councillor W. Lavelle
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

To ask the Manager to update on the status of the proposed traffic calming schemes for the following areas and to advise on what preparatory or on-site works are planned for each area during 2010:

  • Griffeen Glen and surrounding estates;
  • Liffey Valley Park;
  • Palmerstown 'cell' area. 
Qu (15)
Submitted by:
Councillor M. McDonagh
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

To ask the Manager to provide traffic calming ramps in Harelawn Green at the rear of Chaplain Terrace, Clondalkin so as to deter some of the residents of Chaplain Terrace from speeding in and out of the apartments?

Qu (16)
Submitted by:
Councillor T. Ridge
Responsibility:
Tony O Grady

To ask the Manager when will the potholes on St. Patrick's Road, (entrance road), Clondalkin will be repaired?

Qu (17)
Submitted by:
Councillor T. Ridge
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

To ask the Manager when the long awaited and agreed double yellow lines on each side of the hill entering Monastery Gate Villas, Clondalkin will be in place?

Qu (18)
Submitted by:
Councillor E. Tuffy
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

To ask the Manager for an updated report on the study carried out/commissioned by the NRA on the provision of a grade separated junction for the N4/Kennelsfort Road, Palmerstown?

Headed Items

H-I (4)
Submitted by:
Roads Department
Responsibility:
Roads Department

NEW WORKS

No Business

H-I (5)
Submitted by:
Roads Department
Responsibility:
Roads Department

PROPOSED DECLARATION OF ROADS

No Business

H-I (6)
Submitted by:
Roads Department
Responsibility:
Philip Murphy

DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORT - 2010 REGIONAL & LOCAL ROAD GRANT ALLOCATIONS

H-I (7)
Submitted by:
Roads Department
Responsibility:
Thomas Curtin

PROPOSED EXTINGUISHMENT OF THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AT OLD COOLDRINAGH WAY, LUCAN

H-I (8)
Submitted by:
Roads Department
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

REPORT ON PART 8 OF THE PLANNING & DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS 2001-2007

PALMERSTOWN TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES

Correspondence

Cor (2)
Submitted by:
Roads Department
Responsibility:
Roads Department

CORRESPONDENCE

No Business

Motions

Mot (5)
Submitted by:
Councillor R. Dowds
Responsibility:
Roads Department

Cathaoirleach's Business

No Business

Mot (6)
Submitted by:
Councillor T. Delaney
Responsibility:
Tony O Grady

That the Manager urgently assesses the condition of the footpaths around the entrance to the Mill Centre on the Nangor Road, Clondalkin as far as Coláiste Chillian.

Mot (7)
Submitted by:
Councillor W. Lavelle
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

That this Committee requests the Manager to present a detailed report, for discussion, on any changes that have been implemented over the past 6 months with regards to the signal configurations of traffic lights along the Outer Ring Road in Lucan including at the Ballyowen/Willsbrook, Castle Road (Penny Hill) and Griffeen Avenue/Foxborough junctions; to include in this report the details and outcomes of any monitoring and analysis of tailbacks along the approach roads to the Outer Ring Road at these 3 junctions, to report on whether tailbacks on these approach roads have been alleviated in any way as a result of the implementation to date of changes to traffic light signal configurations; and if not, to outline what further steps are now being examined by the Roads Department to address the serious traffic congestion still faced by resident motorists using these approach roads and three Outer Ring Road junctions in particular since the closure of the N4-Esker Lane slip road.

Mot (8)
Submitted by:
Councillor G. O'Connell
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

That this Committee calls on the Manager responsible to have the traffic gantry between Kennelsfort Road, Palmerstown and the M50, which is totally out of place in a residential urban environment, and which I have brought to the attention of the Council on numerous occasions.  Can it be replaced by a single pedestal type gantry as the current double pedestal gantry is both an attraction for serious anti social behaviour, and, a health and safety hazard that totally dominates the adjacent homes and residential gardens in a most unnecessary and intrusive manner.

Mot (9)
Submitted by:
Councillor E. Tuffy
Responsibility:
Philip Murphy

That the Lucan-Clondalkin Area Committee notes the Petition To Object To The Amendments to the Parking Bye-Laws signed by the owners and managers of 80 businesses in and around Lucan Village, believes the presence of such a wide range of commercial activity in Lucan is vital to the real sustainability of the whole community in Lucan Village and its surrounds, values the employment provided by the businesses, and rejects completely the proposal to introduce parking charges on Saturdays, and also rejects the proposal to increase the charge by over 50% at a time of negative inflation, and calls on the Manager to confirm to the Committee that he will not make a proposal to introduce a charge on Saturday, and that no proposal for an increase in the charge will be put to Councillors without full historical and current information on the income and expenses situation of the company operating the scheme being made available to Councillors; this Committee regards that the purpose of the parking scheme is to control and improve traffic management in Lucan, and that the scheme was not and should not be managed as a revenue raising scheme.

Mot (10)
Submitted by:
Councillor G. Kenny
Responsibility:
Thomas Curtin

That the Manager consider the closing of the right of way between St Ronan's Close/Way, Clondalkin. All Residents in the Close/ Way have signed a petition for the closure of the gap. In recent times it has been a focus for loitering and illegal dumping.

Mot (11)
Submitted by:
Councillor D. Keating
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

That this Area Committee expresses its frustration at the prolonged delays in the bringing forward of the planned scheduled of works at the intersection of Kennelsfort Road, Palmerstown and the N4. The Palmerstown Community has been consistently let down by the authorities as a result of delays in resolving the related traffic problems at this major intersection.

Mot (12)
Submitted by:
Councillor T. Delaney
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

That the Manager would approach Dublin Bus to service the Red Cow Luas stop by routing scheduled services into the depot particularly at peak times in the absence of a 'Nipper' service.

Mot (13)
Submitted by:
Councillor W. Lavelle
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

That this Committee recommends the installation, without any further delay, of the long-promised signalised pedestrian crossing on Willsbrook Road at Fforster Square/Esker Woods, Lucan.

Mot (14)
Submitted by:
Councillor E. Tuffy
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

That this Committee is concerned about the delays in installing traffic signals at the Newcastle Road entrance to Hillcrest Estate, Lucan and implementing pedestrian safety measures in the area and requests the Manager to provide an updated report on the matter.

Parks

Questions

Qu (19)
Submitted by:
Councillor T. Delaney
Responsibility:
David Fennell

To ask the Manager to outline the system and level of manpower resources currently allocated to tackle anti social activity in our parks in the Lucan/Clondalkin area?

Qu (20)
Submitted by:
Councillor D. Keating
Responsibility:
David Fennell

To ask the Manager to report in detail on efforts being made to prevent the growing number of incidents of anti-social behaviour in our parks, specifically in Griffeen Valley Park. Would the Manager report on what measures he will introduce that will alleviate such pressures on families who, for example are experiencing theft of bins in estates adjoining the park, including through gates leading into the park, that could perhaps with careful management be closed and locked at night-time, and which may prevent such events occurring?

Qu (21)
Submitted by:
Councillor D. Keating
Responsibility:
David Fennell

To ask the Manager to present an up-to-date report on the anti-social issues affecting the quality of life of Palmerstown residents living in the vicinity of Glenaulin Park, and what are the Manager's considered views on how to resolve these issues?

Qu (22)
Submitted by:
Councillor W. Lavelle
Responsibility:
David Fennell

To ask the Manager to report on the resources and arrangements that are in place for the summer months in the Lucan area to ensure regular grass-cutting of our parks and of green areas in estates that have been taken-in-charge; and to further advise on the Council's role in ensuring that public green areas not yet taken-in-charge by the South Dublin County Council are cut and maintained to an acceptable standard over the summer months, including:

  • The grass verge to the access road to Rossberry, Tullyhall and Hayden's Park Estates;
  • The green area at Griffeen Glen Courtyard;
  • Any remaining areas of Griffeen Valley Park not yet taken-in-charge?
Qu (23)
Submitted by:
Councillor W. Lavelle
Responsibility:
David Fennell

To ask the Manager to report on the Council's response to the often-related problems of anti-social behaviour, the burning of wheelie-bins and general littering in Griffeen Valley Park and to ask that the following proposals be considered as part of the South Dublin County Council's response:

  • The need to significantly improve litter-picking and cleansing in the park, in particular at litter blackspots such as the hedging forming the southern boundary to Esker Cottages;
  • The installation of CCTV monitoring with remote PA system as employed in Sean Walsh Park in Tallaght;
  • The locking at night-time of some of the entrances to the park from adjoining residential estates (only if they can be opened no later than 8am on the next morning)?
Qu (24)
Submitted by:
Councillor W. Lavelle
Responsibility:
David Fennell

To ask the Manager to update on the South Dublin County Council's examination of options to close off access to the green area along the old Lucan-Clondalkin Road between Moy Glas and Castle Riada Estates, as committed to in reply to my question at the January meeting?

Qu (25)
Submitted by:
Councillor E. Tuffy
Responsibility:
David Fennell

To ask the Manager if he will make a report on the collaboration between South Dublin County Council, Dublin City Council, and An Garda Síochana, to deal with anti-social behaviour in and around Glenaulin Park, Palmerstown?

Qu (26)
Submitted by:
Councillor E. Tuffy
Responsibility:
David Fennell

To ask the Manager if he will make a report on recent complaints received about illegal dumping and litter in Lucan Demesne, including at the entrance adjacent to the car park, and if he will make a statement on the measures taken by South Dublin County Council to maintain Lucan Demesne? 

Qu (27)
Submitted by:
Councillor E. Tuffy
Responsibility:
David Fennell

To ask the Manager if he can advise the Committee on the additional works which will be carried out at Lucan Weir this year to bring the project closer to completion?

Headed Items

H-I (9)
Submitted by:
Parks Department
Responsibility:
Parks Department

NEW WORKS

No Business

Correspondence

Cor (3)
Submitted by:
Parks Department
Responsibility:
Parks Department

CORRESPONDENCE

No Business

Motions

Mot (15)
Submitted by:
Councillor R. Dowds
Responsibility:
David Fennell

CATHAOIRLEACH'S BUSINESS

That this Committee recommends that the Manager:-

(a) Agrees to place lights in the corner of St. Cuthbert's Park between Melrose and Lindisfarne Estates, Clondalkin and

(b) Explains why there is such a discrepancy in the answers to my business on this matter between February 24th 2009, Motion No.2 and October 21st 2009, Question No.2.

Mot (16)
Submitted by:
Councillor G. O'Connell
Responsibility:
Yvonne Dervan

That this Committee congratulate the Council workers for their good work over the Halloween period.  That Management provide a report on the preventative and clean-up work associated with Halloween 2009 in the Lucan/Clondalkin area, including the cost of each and that the matter be fully discussed so that we can learn from the experience to the benefit of future years.

Mot (17)
Submitted by:
Councillor W. Lavelle
Responsibility:
David Fennell

That this Area Committee notes the 44 possible actions to address problems of anti-social behaviour in and around Glenaulin Park as identified at a public meeting convened on 11th February by Palmerstown Community Council and requests the Manager to present a detailed report, for discussion, on those possible actions which fall under the remit of this council’s Parks Department including:

  • Permanently closing-off the park entrance at the eastern end of the rear laneway behind Culmore Road;
  • Closing some of the entrances to the park at night-time (only if they can be opened no later than 8am on the next morning);
  • Increasing the height of low boundary walls to the park;
  • Improving the Park Ranger service available to parks in Palmerstown through basing Park Rangers at a permanent depot at Waterstown Park;
  • Installing additional CCTV cameras in and around the park;
  • Thinning the hedgerows and vegetation around the park perimeter, in particular at Gaels field and Oak Court Lawn;
  • Introducing more regular litter-picking & cleansing of the park and the stream,
  • Greater co-operation with Dublin City Council on matters relating to the maintenance and security of the park.

And furthermore requests a representative of the Park's Department to attend the follow-up public meeting scheduled for April 15th.

Mot (18)
Submitted by:
Councillor T. Delaney
Responsibility:
Bill Kearney

That the Manager will investigate the consistent problems being experienced by the ambulance services locating the GAA pitches in Clondalkin Community Centre (now incorporated into Corkagh Park). There is also an issue with emergency vehicles being able to access the pitches on softer ground and consideration might be given to a proper perimeter pathway. 

Mot (19)
Submitted by:
Councillor T. Gilligan
Responsibility:
David Fennell

That the Manager outlines proposals for a quad bike park in Clondalkin. What would the costs associated be and what could potential income generated amount to.

Mot (20)
Submitted by:
Councillor E. Tuffy
Responsibility:
David Fennell

That this Committee requests the Manager to explore with Fingal County Council the feasibility of a joint project to provide a footbridge link between Waterstown Park, Palmerstown and the Fingal side of the Liffey.

Mot (21)
Submitted by:
Councillor D. Keating
Responsibility:
David Fennell

That this Committee requests the Manager to present a detailed report for discussion on the South Dublin County Council's proposals to address the greater challenges in maintaining clean parks in the Lucan area, including Lucan Demesne, Griffeen Valley Regional Park, Hermitage Park, Ballyowen Park etc., in view of the increased and sustained litter issues in local parks that continue to cause anger and upset in the local community.

Development

Questions

Qu (28)
Submitted by:
Councillor T. Delaney
Responsibility:
John Browne

To ask the Manager to present an up to date report on the status of the green field site on the western side of the Naas Road between Mac Rental and St Brigid's Cottages and to ask the owners to secure and tidy it up to a satisfactory standard for such a major stretch of roadway?

Qu (29)
Submitted by:
Councillor D. Keating
Responsibility:
John Browne

To ask the Manager to indicate his intentions for the land of the former green waste facility in Lucan?

Headed Items

H-I (10)
Submitted by:
Development, Econ. & Transport Planning Dept.
Responsibility:
Development, Econ. & Transport Planning Dept.

NEW WORKS

No Business

Correspondence

Cor (4)
Submitted by:
Development, Econ. & Transport Planning Dept.
Responsibility:
Development, Econ. & Transport Planning Dept.

CORRESPONDENCE

No Business

Motions

Mot (22)
Submitted by:
Councillor R. Dowds
Responsibility:
Development, Econ. & Transport Planning Dept.

Cathaoirleach's Business

No Business

Mot (23)
Submitted by:
Councillor T. Ridge
Responsibility:
John Browne, Marian Hehir

That a report be brought regarding the progress of the canal walk from the 9th Lock, Clondalkin to the Outer Ring Road. The report to include security measures at the rear of Oakwood Grove, St. Patrick's and Kilcronan, Clondalkin.

Mot (24)
Submitted by:
Councillor T. Gilligan
Responsibility:
John Browne

That this Committee recommends that South Dublin County Council increase the number of allotments available in Corkagh Park, Clondalkin.  Can the Manager outline the costs associated and potential income that could be generated.

Mot (25)
Submitted by:
Councillor T. Ridge
Responsibility:
John Browne

That the Manager give an updated report on No. 1A St. Patrick's Road, Clondalkin.