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Agenda - Lucan-Clondalkin ACM (1) 20th January 2010

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Date:
20/01/2010 15:30
Location:
Clondalkin Office
Standing Orders:

Headed Items

H-I (1)
Submitted by:
Planning Not is use
Responsibility:
Planning Not is use

Confirmation and Re-affirmation of Minutes

Minutes of the Lucan/Clondalkin Area Committee Meeting 1st December, 2009

Roads

Questions

Qu (1)
Submitted by:
Councillor T. Delaney
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

To ask the Manager to report on the possible development of a public car park in Newcastle?

Qu (2)
Submitted by:
Councillor T. Delaney
Responsibility:
Tony O Grady

To ask the Manager that in the interest of pedestrian safety the two missing steel bollards be replaced as a matter of urgency on the Main Street in Clondalkin opposite the New Road junction?

Qu (3)
Submitted by:
Councillor R. Dowds
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

To ask the Manager if Forest Hills, Rathcoole is on the list for traffic calming and, if so, when is the calming likely to be installed?

Qu (4)
Submitted by:
Councillor C. Jones
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

To ask the Manager if there is an update with regard to the relocating of pedestrian lights on Newcastle Road near the Hillcrest junction, Lucan?

Qu (5)
Submitted by:
Councillor D. Keating
Responsibility:
Tony O Grady

To ask the Manager to agree to survey the footpaths in Ardeevin estate, Lucan, and to carry out repairs on those sections of footpaths deemed to be in need of repairs owing to deterioration and on grounds of safety?

Qu (6)
Submitted by:
Councillor W. Lavelle
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

To ask the Manager to outline what criteria were considered when assessing the appropriateness of the large directional signage recently installed next to Lucan Methodist Church at the approach to the traffic lights at Courtney’s pub; in particular given that Lucan Village is designated a Architectural Conservation Area and also noting that the installation of signage of this scale would seem to go against the recommendations of the Lucan Village Design Statement; and to further ask if the Council’s Heritage Officer was consulted on this matter.

Qu (7)
Submitted by:
Councillor W. Lavelle
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

To ask the Manager to update members of this Committee on the planned timeframe for installation of traffic lights at the Hillcrest Road/Newcastle Road junction, noting that members were previously advised that these works were due to be completed before the end of 2009; and to further ask for an update on any related proposals to improve pedestrian safety in this general area?

Qu (8)
Submitted by:
Councillor W. Lavelle
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

To ask the Manager, further to my question at the October 2009 meeting, to provide an update on proposals to complete the footpath along the east side of Willsbrook Road at the roundabout with Mount Bellew Way and to install a signalised pedestrian crossing on Willsbrook Road at this location, noting that the recent planning application for the adjoining vacant site was refused? 

Qu (9)
Submitted by:
Councillor G. O'Connell
Responsibility:
Tony O Grady

To ask the Manager when it is intended to have the footpaths in Palmerstown Village repaired to a safe standard as requested by me on several occasions over the last few years, as they are now even more dangerous since the recent very bad spell of weather?

Qu (10)
Submitted by:
Councillor G. O'Connell
Responsibility:
Tony O Grady

To ask the Manager to have the footpath outside No. 87 The Coppice examined and repaired as soon as possible as it is now very dangerous?

Qu (11)
Submitted by:
Councillor T. Ridge
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

To ask when promised signposts (directional) for Deansrath College will be in place, in view of ongoing difficulties in locating same for school visitors not familiar with this area of Clondalkin. This Councillor asked some time ago and the College Principal is aware of cost of same?

Qu (12)
Submitted by:
Councillor T. Ridge
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

To ask are there any proposals for Park and Ride facilities for Saggart area when extension to Luas line is in place?

Qu (13)
Submitted by:
Councillor T. Ridge
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

To ask if a pedestrian count can be carried out at Saggart Village in view of increase in school population and new communities?

Qu (14)
Submitted by:
Councillor E. Tuffy
Responsibility:
Tony O Grady

To ask the Manager if he will provide a report on the measures undertaken by the Council to treat roads in the Lucan/Clondalkin Electoral Areas with grit/salt during the recent period of cold weather, including information on any measures to make footpaths less slippy, and if he will make a statement on the inter-agency collaboration with An Garda Síochana and the NRA?

Qu (15)
Submitted by:
Councillor E. Tuffy
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

To ask the Manager for an updated report on the installation of traffic control signals at the entrance to Hillcrest Estate from the Newcastle Road, and if he will advise as to steps taken to address the concerns of parents about the moving of the pedestrian crossing on the Newcastle Road?

Headed Items

H-I (2)
Submitted by:
Roads Department
Responsibility:
Roads Department

New Works

No Business

H-I (3)
Submitted by:
Roads Department
Responsibility:
Colm Murphy

Proposed Declaration of Roads to be Public Roads

Foxborough (Phase 3 & 4), Lucan

Correspondence

Cor (1)
Submitted by:
Roads Department
Responsibility:
Roads Department

Correspondence

No Business

Motions

Mot (1)
Submitted by:
Councillor R. Dowds
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

Cathaoirleach's Business

This Committee recommends that warning signs are placed on the approaches to the pedestrian lights at the entrance to Scoil na Camoige on Watery Lane, Clondalkin as some vehicles have been driving through red lights at that location.

Mot (2)
Submitted by:
Councillor D. Keating
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

That the Manager would present a detailed report for discussion on the Council's plans to introduce safe pedestrian access to the N4 for public transport and Liffey Valley, for residents, particularly those residents living on the St. Loman's Road and Ballyowen Road and Ballyowen Lane, Lucan areas. I have submitted a draft drawing for consideration at this meeting in the interest of progressing this issue. The lack of safe pedestrian access at this location poses a daily and serious threat to the health and safety of all pedestrians in this area, including children, particularly owing to the busy and dangerous Fonthill Road and St. Loman's Road junction.

Mot (3)
Submitted by:
Councillor C. Jones
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

That this Committee recommends that Lucan be given priority pending any introduction of a local authority transport service.

Mot (4)
Submitted by:
Councillor T. Gilligan
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

That this Council installs traffic calming measures as outlined to residents in Laurel Park, Clondalkin, namely two islands at the start of the estate (preventing u-turns) and half way up the estate at the junction, again, eliminating u-turns.

Mot (5)
Submitted by:
Councillor T. Delaney
Responsibility:
Tony O Grady

That the Manager will undertake an audit of the footpaths in the Clondalkin Village area.

Mot (6)
Submitted by:
Councillor T. Ridge
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

That in view of the blatant disregard of motorists of the double yellow lines outside Clondalkin Social Welfare Office that a strictly no parking signs be placed there a.s.a.p. and that the Gardaí at Clondalkin monitor this area closely.

Mot (7)
Submitted by:
Councillor R. Dowds
Responsibility:
Tony O Grady

That this Committee recommends that a section of footpath is built from the New Nangor Road to the Spar Shop/Dr Ramiah's on Cherrywood Crescent, Clondalkin.

Mot (8)
Submitted by:
Councillor W. Lavelle
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

That this Area Committee recommends that the Draft Parking Bye-Laws 2009 be amended as follows:

  • The proposed ‘Tariff A’ parking fee be reduced to a rate of 10 cent per 6 minutes;
  • The proposed hours of operation for all parking tariffs should exclude Saturday;
  • Lucan Demesne car-park should, for the time-being, be redesignated as 'Tariff C'.
Mot (9)
Submitted by:
Councillor G. O'Connell
Responsibility:
Tony O Grady

That the Manager arrange that the footpath between Palmerstown Court and Palmerstown Shopping Centre be repaired and restored to a safe and satisfactory standard as it has been let deteriorate to a totally unacceptable level.

Mot (10)
Submitted by:
Councillor E. Tuffy
Responsibility:
Tony O Grady

That the Manager would make a full report on the measures undertaken by the Council during the recent cold spell to treat roads in the Lucan/Clondalkin Electoral Areas with grit/sand, and other measures to reduce risks to road users and pedestrians, so as to give elected members an opportunity at the meeting to convey their own views and representative views of their constituents on plans for dealing with similar weather conditions in the future.

Mot (11)
Submitted by:
Councillor T. Gilligan
Responsibility:
Tony O Grady

That this Committee requests the Manager to arrange the cleaning of the footbridge at Tay Lane to Rathcoole.

Water gathers at the centre of the bridge and various other points, making it impossible to cross without having to step into pools of water, which will no doubt freeze over in the winter if you get a combination of rain and frost.

  • The bridge is filthy, full of slippery moss, dead leaves, cans, paper etc
  • Also some street lighting to be installed down Tay lane at the Rathcoole end, and along the bridge as it is very dark at night.
  • removal of illegally dumped hedge trimmings between the Naas Road and the boundary B&B at Tay Lane (Rathcoole end)
Mot (12)
Submitted by:
Councillor T. Delaney
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

That the Manager examines the effectiveness (or lack of) of the series of road ramps along the main road in Newcastle village. It seems the ramps are too low and positioned too far apart to have a traffic calming effect.

Mot (13)
Submitted by:
Councillor R. Dowds
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

That this Committee recommends to South Dublin County Council that no pay and display parking meters are erected in Saggart Village and Newcastle.

Mot (14)
Submitted by:
Councillor D. Keating
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

That this Area Committee agrees that no parking fees increases be introduced in the Lucan and Palmerstown areas as part of the review of South Dublin’s Parking By-Laws, and that no Pay and Display Regulations be introduced for Saturday parking.

Mot (15)
Submitted by:
Councillor G. O'Connell
Responsibility:
Tony O Grady

That this Area Committee compliments Management and staff on the manner in which they dealt with the roads during the recent artic spell and to ask the Manager for a report on the matter and to state in the report if he is satisfied that the road and footpath network which is the responsibility of  this Area Committee were serviced to the maximum level required, what lessons can be learnt from the experience for future action and that this matter be fully discussed.

Mot (16)
Submitted by:
Councillor C. Jones
Responsibility:
John McLoughlin

That this Committee opposes any future attempts to further restrict parking in Lucan village.

Development & Parks

Questions

Qu (16)
Submitted by:
Councillor R. Dowds
Responsibility:
John Browne

To ask the Manager for the footprint of the land the County Council is trying to sell beside Dr. D. Ramiah's Medical Centre, Cherrywood Crescent, Clondalkin and why South Dublin County Council is trying to sell it?

Qu (17)
Submitted by:
Councillor R. Dowds
Responsibility:
David Fennell

To ask the Manager to remove the wooden bollards between Neilstown Park and the open green area as they are being damaged by joyriders and are not an effective means of keeping joyriders out of open green spaces?

Qu (18)
Submitted by:
Councillor W. Lavelle
Responsibility:
David Fennell

To ask the Manager to outline what measures are being proposed to address and eliminate the serious litter problems in our parks, in particular at Griffeen Valley Park in Lucan, where there has been significant local concern in recent months regarding litter problems? Information provided at the recent Annual Budget Meeting stated that this local authority expends approximately €0.7m per annum on litter-picking in our parks. Some of this money could be better spent on measures to prevent littering.

Qu (19)
Submitted by:
Councillor W. Lavelle
Responsibility:
Yvonne Dervan

To ask the Manager to examine the feasibility of utilising an appropriate work-placement or training programme to gainfully engage unemployed persons in environmental improvement works under the auspices of the Parks & Landscaping Department including, as per my previous representations, repairs to the wall at Lucan Demesne on the Lucan-Leixlip road and completion of the stone wall around Hermitage Park onto Ballyowen Lane?

Qu (20)
Submitted by:
Councillor W. Lavelle
Responsibility:
John Browne, David Fennell

To ask the Manager to examine options to close off access to the green area along that section of the old road embankment between Moy Glas and Castle Riada estates not subject to a legal right-of-way. Closing off access to this area would help minimise the serious problems of anti-social behavior experienced by residents of Moy Glas and Castle Riada, at least until such time as the proposed Luas line F is constructed along this embankment?

Qu (21)
Submitted by:
Councillor C. Jones
Responsibility:
David Fennell

To ask the Manager to report on the status of the Lucan Weir?

Qu (22)
Submitted by:
Councillor G. O'Connell
Responsibility:
David Fennell

To ask the Manager when will he secure the “kissing gate” entrance from Riversdale Estate to Waterstown Park, Palmerstown and block-off other entrances used by bikers and quads to gain access to the Park making it highly dangerous for other Park users?

Qu (23)
Submitted by:
Councillor G. O'Connell
Responsibility:
David Fennell

To ask the Manager responsible to have the entrances to Glenaulin Park from the laneway to the rear of Culmore Road, Palmerstown closed to the public as a matter of urgency as there is no good being served by any such entrance and it only provides access to those interested in anti-social behaviour?

Qu (24)
Submitted by:
Councillor T. Ridge
Responsibility:
Michael Hannon

To ask when proposed entrance to Rathcoole/Saggart Park from Swiftbrook, Saggart will be in place?

Headed Items

H-I (4)
Submitted by:
Parks Department, Development, Econ. & Transport Planning Dept.
Responsibility:
Parks Department, Development, Econ. & Transport Planning Dept.

New Works

No Business

Correspondence

Cor (2)
Submitted by:
Parks Department, Development, Econ. & Transport Planning Dept.
Responsibility:
Parks Department, Development, Econ. & Transport Planning Dept.

Correspondence

No Business

Motions

Mot (17)
Submitted by:
Councillor R. Dowds
Responsibility:
Yvonne Dervan

Cathaoirleach's Business

That this Committee recommends, in relation to schoolboy footballers using South Dublin County Council Parks, that the charge be €1 per child per year with no summer charge.

Mot (18)
Submitted by:
Councillor T. Gilligan
Responsibility:
Bill Kearney

That this Area Committee requests the Manager to install paving at the grass verge on the Newlands Road, Clondalkin as the grass is growing excessively again and dumping is an issue. Also that the Council cleans / cuts the verge at Carroll's Motors on the link road - New road - Fonthill Road.

Mot (19)
Submitted by:
Councillor E. Tuffy
Responsibility:
Michael Hannon

That this Committee requests the Manager to initiate a review of the Council's Five Year Playground Programme, having regard to the capacity of the Council to implement the present programme in the context of its financial resources, and if he will consider the feasibility of providing playground facilities to parts of the Lucan Electoral Area not currently provided for/or included in the five year programme, including Palmerstown, the Ballyowen/Willsbrook area through the provision of small playgrounds on parkland/open spaces which are overlooked by housing?

Mot (20)
Submitted by:
Councillor D. Keating
Responsibility:
John Browne

That the Manager would provide an up-to-date report on the open space adjacent to Lucan Educate Together National School, and that this Committee believes that this issue remains unresolved for far too long.

Mot (21)
Submitted by:
Councillor W. Lavelle
Responsibility:
David Fennell

That the Manager would examine the feasibility of installing gates, which would be locked at night, at the entry points to Glenaulin Park from Glenmaroon and Glenaulin Roads and from the laneway off Culmore Road, Palmerstown. This would be one small step in helping to reduce anti-social behaviour in this general area.

Mot (22)
Submitted by:
Councillor G. O'Connell
Responsibility:
David Fennell

That this Committee congratulate the Council workers for their good work over the Halloween period, that Management provide a report on the preventative work and the clean-up work associated with Halloween 2009 including the cost of each and that the matter be fully discussed so that we can learn from the experience to the benefit of future years.

Mot (23)
Submitted by:
Councillor T. Ridge
Responsibility:
Bill Kearney

That the Parks Department arrange for upsetting graffiti to be removed from inner wall adjacent to upper gate at Rathcoole Park.

Mot (24)
Submitted by:
Councillor R. Dowds
Responsibility:
Bill Kearney

That this Committee recommends that the entrance areas to Corkagh Park from both Cherrywood Crescent, and Cherrywood Grove, Clondalkinare tidied up and made free of flooding, both at the entrance and within the park.

Mot (25)
Submitted by:
Councillor C. Jones
Responsibility:
John Browne, David Fennell

That this Committee calls for practical support for the residents of Moy Glas, Lucan due to the distinct issues they are experiencing.

Mot (26)
Submitted by:
Councillor T. Gilligan
Responsibility:
Bill Kearney

That this Council excludes BK Trading from all future tenders due to health issues arising from Corkagh Fisheries, Clondalkin.

Mot (27)
Submitted by:
Councillor D. Keating
Responsibility:
John Browne

That the Manager would present a detailed report for discussion following my regular discussions with Council officials, in particular since my meeting with Palmerstown Rangers on 19th September, where specific problematic issues were discussed and identified and require the Council's support on resolving in an effort to move forward.

Mot (28)
Submitted by:
Councillor R. Dowds
Responsibility:
David Fennell

That this Committee recommends that the Manager:-

(a) Agrees to place lights in the corner of St. Cuthbert's Park between Melrose and Lindisfarne Estates, Clondalkin and

(b) Explains why there is such a discrepancy in the answers to my business on this matter between February 24th 2009, Motion No.2 and October 21st 2009, Question No.2.

Mot (29)
Submitted by:
Councillor T. Ridge
Responsibility:
John Browne

That a site meeting be agreed for Main Street, Saggart to deal with the ongoing problems caused by the derelict site and hoarding which includes access to the footpath beside the Church and school.

Planning

Questions

Qu (25)
Submitted by:
Councillor D. Keating
Responsibility:
Martin Judge

To ask the Manager to present a detailed and up-to-date report on any outstanding planning and enforcement issues relating to 26 Larkfield Close, Lucan?

Qu (26)
Submitted by:
Councillor D. Keating
Responsibility:
Martin Judge

To ask the Manager to present a detailed and up-to-date report on any outstanding planning and enforcement issues relating to 66 Esker Park, Lucan?

Qu (27)
Submitted by:
Councillor W. Lavelle
Responsibility:
Colin Ryan

To ask the Manager to outline his response to a request made by the Bewley Residents Association, as part of their January 2009 submission on the new County Development Plan, to seek a new local zoning objective to "facilitate provision of the completion of the boundary fence that separates Bewley Grove and Mount Bellew Way running eastwards as far as the Outer Ring Road”?.

Qu (28)
Submitted by:
Councillor W. Lavelle
Responsibility:
Tony Shanahan

To ask the Manager to provide an update on the taking-in-charge process for Abbeywood Court, Lucan; including details of any progress on this matter since the process of sequestering the bond for this development commenced on October 19th 2009?

Qu (29)
Submitted by:
Councillor E. Tuffy
Responsibility:
Paul Hogan

To ask the Manager if he will provide an updated report on the Planning Application launched some months ago for substantial development on the Liffey Valley lands under the Local Area Plan?

Qu (30)
Submitted by:
Councillor E. Tuffy
Responsibility:
Paul Hogan

To ask the Manager if he can advise of the updated position on any approach from the Department of Education and Science or the Office of Public Works to the Council seeking to identify sites on Council owned lands for Esker Educate Together National School and/or St. Andrew’s National School, Lucan?

Headed Items

H-I (5)
Submitted by:
Planning Not is use
Responsibility:
Planning Not is use

New Works

No Business

H-I (6)
Submitted by:
Planning Not is use
Responsibility:
Planning Not is use

Planning Files

A. Large applications under consideration

B. Files requested by members

H-I (7)
Submitted by:
Planning Not is use
Responsibility:
Tony Shanahan

Conservation Grants for Protected Structures 2009-2010

Correspondence

Cor (3)
Submitted by:
Planning Not is use
Responsibility:
Planning Not is use

Correspondence

No Business

Motions

Mot (30)
Submitted by:
Councillor R. Dowds
Responsibility:
Martin Judge

Cathaoirleach's Business

That the Manager presents a report on the dereliction of numbers 2 & 4 Lealand Walk, Clondalkin and the efforts being made to sort out this problem.

Mot (31)
Submitted by:
Councillor R. Dowds
Responsibility:
Tony Shanahan

That the Manager presents an up to date report on the examinations of infrastructure done by South Dublin County Council in the Glebe Estate, Newcastle, County Dublin and outlines the procedure whereby this estate can be taken in charge by our County Council.

Mot (32)
Submitted by:
Councillor W. Lavelle
Responsibility:
Paul Hogan

That this Area Committee:

NOTING the ongoing and pressing need to identify and secure sites for the provision of permanent accommodation for both St. Andrew's NS and Esker Educate Together NS;

FURTHER NOTING that this Council, in response to my previous motions, is currently awaiting a report from the Department of Education detailing their GIS analysis of future school-place requirements, and that this report is likely to conclude that additional school capacity will be in required in the Lucan area in coming years, including ideally an Educate Together second level school as aspired to by the parents of children in Lucan's five Educate Together primary schools;

REQUESTS the Manager to examine and identify appropriate sites, irrespective of ownership, to be proposed for reservation under the new County Development Plan for educational use;

AND FURTHER REQUESTS the Manager, with regards to any identified sites which are in Council ownership, to write to the Minister for Education advising him of the availability of these sites and offering them for disposal.

Mot (33)
Submitted by:
Councillor E. Tuffy
Responsibility:
Colin Ryan

That the Manager would provide a briefing to Lucan/Clondalkin Electoral Area Councillors on submissions received from members of the public, businesses, landowners, national and local agencies and other organisations following the recent public display of the Draft County Development Plan.

Mot (34)
Submitted by:
Councillor W. Lavelle
Responsibility:
Paul Hogan

That this Committee expresses it's full support for any and all efforts to bring forward the development of key elements of physical and community infrastructure proposed under the Adamstown SDZ, as a means of supporting local job creation and delivering significant 'planning gains' for the residents of Adamstown and the Greater Lucan Area.

This Committee therefore requests the Manager to engage with the developers of Adamstown SDZ with a view to pro-actively examining all opportunities for community-led collaboration in expediting, in particular, the delivery of:

  • A Community Sports & Aquatic Complex for the accessible use of all residents and families of Adamstown and the Greater Lucan Area;
  • An Enterprise Centre to provide physical space such as 'hot-desks' and 'incubator units' for use by local entrepreneurs and business start-ups (including those involved this council's expanding 'Intellectual Enterprise Zone' initiative) as well as providing a base for Lucan Local Employment Services;
  • Completion of the planned Loop Road No.2 so as to allow direct access from Dodsboro Road to Newcastle Road, removing rat-running traffic from Hillcrest Estate.