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SOUTH DUBLIN COUNTY COUNCIL

MEETING OF RATHFARNHAM / TEMPLEOGUE / FIRHOUSE / BOHERNABREENA AREA COMMITTEE

Tuesday, February 08, 2022

MOTION NO. 14

MOTION: Councillor D. O'Donovan

That the Manager facilitates the installation of two name rocks on the Knocklyon Road. There are a large number of suitable rocks on the site of the Homeville Part 8 which would be ideal. It is suggested one would go at the corner of Knocklyon Road and Firhouse road across from Lansdowne on the Blue Haven side. The other one could go on the Intersection of Ballycullen Rd. and Firhouse Rd., opposite Mortons but on the Delanys pub side.

REPORT:

The proposed locations have been surveyed and there appears to be sufficient directional signage to Knocklyon.  The existing signage is the prescribed Fingerpost signage that conforms with the guidance contained in the Traffic Signs Manual.

The request is for Name rocks to be placed at two locations.  Name place rocks have a precise meaning in that they describe a Village or Town boundary. 

The location of the name rocks may not align with the Knocklyon Townland boundaries.  As can be seen the Townland boundary was formed on tradtional hedgelines, streams or other existing geographic feature that may not be present today.  Indeed boundary based on modern Eircodes could yield a significantly different boundary for Knocklyon.  There is the potential for significant push back from the effected residents on this point.  It is much cleaner to have fingerpost signage towards centre of centre of Knocklyon.  This signage is descriptively accurate while not pertaining to be a boundary sign which I have already said is fraught with weaknesses. 

The traffic section concludes:

There is sufficient directional signage indicating where Knockyon is located.  The proposal for Name rocks could be misunderstood as a definitive boundary without any background justification for that boundary and which may exclude some areas where residents consider themselves to be within Knocklyon and include others where the residents wish to be classified as other than Knocklyon.

The existing directional signage is considered the best option for this location.